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**Jason** · May 13th, 2010, 05:20 PM

I dont condone what he did but I am not going to call for some of the most severe punishments that others are calling for when he is just a kid. Would be different if he was a grownup doing that. He deserves being punished but not thrown to the wolves. To me that is what the Bristol paper is doing is throwing him to the wolves by listing his name in their article.

**pvfan** · May 13th, 2010, 09:28 PM

Since this entire incident is out in the paper, I am going to comment. I consider myself pretty patriotic, as a youth I participated in more ceremonies than probably most on this board and have an unbelievable amount of respect for those who served. My grandfather served in Korea, my uncle served two tours of duty in Vietnam; I had great uncles that served in World War II, etc. I get offended when people do not take their hats off at ball games, thus I get the sentiments. What the youth, and we need to remember that this is an underage child, did was wrong, obviously. What the Lonesome Pine District Sports Forum and it’s moderators have done is far worse. This thread has spiraled out of control for the better part of two weeks now with no moderator interaction. The buzz on this site has sparked local paper interest and you have now played a part in destroying the name of a young man.

Furthermore, I’m amazed at what some of the adults on this board are calling for. Have you all never done anything wrong? Please do not give me “I didn’t urinate during the national anthem” either. His actions, while wrong, did not in any way shape or form endanger the well being of another human being. Anybody on this thread that has ever driven drunk (caught or not), did an illegal substance and drove, committed assault, robbery, adultery, or any other of a million things have no place to chastise this young man because what you did directly hurt another human being. This board continues to just get worse. The moderators on this board simply do not care to patrol the board, the adult members seem to think they are holier than thou, and the coolest thing going in Wise County is to get on a message board to shove the fact that you’re a veteran down somebody’s throat or to insult the veterans that have graciously served our country so we can all be safe.
I’m appalled and embarrassed that we allow this to go on in Wise County; you guys need to grow up.

**Jason** · May 13th, 2010, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by pvfan

Since this entire incident is out in the paper, I am going to comment. I consider myself pretty patriotic, as a youth I participated in more ceremonies than probably most on this board and have an unbelievable amount of respect for those who served. My grandfather served in Korea, my uncle served two tours of duty in Vietnam; I had great uncles that served in World War II, etc. I get offended when people do not take their hats off at ball games, thus I get the sentiments. What the youth, and we need to remember that this is an underage child, did was wrong, obviously. What the Lonesome Pine District Sports Forum and it?s moderators have done is far worse. This thread has spiraled out of control for the better part of two weeks now with no moderator interaction. The buzz on this site has sparked local paper interest and you have now played a part in destroying the name of a young man.

Furthermore, I?m amazed at what some of the adults on this board are calling for. Have you all never done anything wrong? Please do not give me ?I didn?t urinate during the national anthem? either. His actions, while wrong, did not in any way shape or form endanger the well being of another human being. Anybody on this thread that has ever driven drunk (caught or not), did an illegal substance and drove, committed assault, robbery, adultery, or any other of a million things have no place to chastise this young man because what you did directly hurt another human being. This board continues to just get worse. The moderators on this board simply do not care to patrol the board, the adult members seem to think they are holier than thou, and the coolest thing going in Wise County is to get on a message board to shove the fact that you?re a veteran down somebody?s throat or to insult the veterans that have graciously served our country so we can all be safe.
I?m appalled and embarrassed that we allow this to go on in Wise County; you guys need to grow up.

That is very true about this board getting the matter in the papers. Truth be known there are plenty of Adults urinating during the Anthem each year. Though they do so in a restroom instead of in the wide open it can still be considered the same thing. Hell if I have the urge hit me hard enough I guess I would make a run to the bathroom myself. I know this youth intentionally done so on a dare but peer pressure does alot of things to a youth. This thread has gone on way too far so regaurdless of what more is said on here this is my last post on the matter permenatly. The youth and his familly will surely be going through enough now as it is. I appologize the the familly for any part I have taken in this discussion.

**Unchained** · May 13th, 2010, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by pvfan

Since this entire incident is out in the paper, I am going to comment. I consider myself pretty patriotic, as a youth I participated in more ceremonies than probably most on this board and have an unbelievable amount of respect for those who served. My grandfather served in Korea, my uncle served two tours of duty in Vietnam; I had great uncles that served in World War II, etc. I get offended when people do not take their hats off at ball games, thus I get the sentiments. What the youth, and we need to remember that this is an underage child, did was wrong, obviously. What the Lonesome Pine District Sports Forum and it?s moderators have done is far worse. This thread has spiraled out of control for the better part of two weeks now with no moderator interaction. The buzz on this site has sparked local paper interest and you have now played a part in destroying the name of a young man.

Furthermore, I?m amazed at what some of the adults on this board are calling for. Have you all never done anything wrong? Please do not give me ?I didn?t urinate during the national anthem? either. His actions, while wrong, did not in any way shape or form endanger the well being of another human being. Anybody on this thread that has ever driven drunk (caught or not), did an illegal substance and drove, committed assault, robbery, adultery, or any other of a million things have no place to chastise this young man because what you did directly hurt another human being. This board continues to just get worse. The moderators on this board simply do not care to patrol the board, the adult members seem to think they are holier than thou, and the coolest thing going in Wise County is to get on a message board to shove the fact that you?re a veteran down somebody?s throat or to insult the veterans that have graciously served our country so we can all be safe.
I?m appalled and embarrassed that we allow this to go on in Wise County; you guys need to grow up.

Whoa man-a little accountability here. The young man did this in public,and that's going to warrant scrutiny (people have free reign to photograph,print stories-as long as it's the truth-another right those vets have given us). If his name is destroyed on here,it's because HE did a bonehead blunder. To blame this board for that is ridiculous (although we both know this place stokes the fire).

Having said that,the kid made a mistake,and he's going to pay for it. Folks on here trying to lynch him are out of line. For the rest of his life,folks are gonna mention this incident when seeing him,talking about him...etc. That's a heavy price to pay,and he's gonna have to be thick-skinned (not to mention the embarrassment to his family). No matter what happened with discliplining him,it pales in comparison to that. I have no doubt if he had it to change,he would. He's a young man who will have to learn from this.

I totally agree with a piece of your thread though DD. As human beings,we are ALL hypocrites to different degrees. Anybody who wants to try to deny that is a liar. We are quick to pass judgement and point fingers,all the while forgetting the skeletons in our own closets. I am guilty of this,as are we all. We just have to remember that we've made our mistakes in our lives as well.

**pvfan** · May 13th, 2010, 10:53 PM

I think the young man has paid the price for his wrong doing. People have free reign to print what they want as long as it's the truth eh? I'd hate for people to tart posting all they knew about the people who posted in this thread (including myself). If I were this young man or his family this thing would be ugly by now. Thankfully, this guy and his family are better people than me and everybody else on here.

**Unchained** · May 13th, 2010, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by pvfan

I think the young man has paid the price for his wrong doing. People have free reign to print what they want as long as it's the truth eh? I'd hate for people to tart posting all they knew about the people who posted in this thread (including myself). If I were this young man or his family this thing would be ugly by now. Thankfully, this guy and his family are better people than me and everybody else on here.

It is bothersome to me that the BHC published his name. If he were an adult,I'd say wear him out. Were I his Dad or Mom,I'd be talking to someone by now.

**centennialdawg** · May 14th, 2010, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by pvfan

I think the young man has paid the price for his wrong doing. People have free reign to print what they want as long as it's the truth eh? I'd hate for people to tart posting all they knew about the people who posted in this thread (including myself). If I were this young man or his family this thing would be ugly by now. Thankfully, this guy and his family are better people than me and everybody else on here.

I have nothing to hide, my deed has been hashed out on this forum before....extremely old news there. The only thing, and I have said this before, the only thing I was concerened about is the fact that he did this in public during the anthem. And yes, to put it bluntly, I feel that I have every right to say my piece on this. I was honorably discharged. Look it up at the Wise County Courthouse, My DD form 214 is filed there. He got his punishment, what I thought was appropriate and just. Let it go.

I agree, the mods haven't done their jobs in a long time, Maybe it is time for them to go and get some new ones. Think about that.

**pvfan** · May 14th, 2010, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by centennialdawg

I have nothing to hide, my deed has been hashed out on this forum before....extremely old news there. The only thing, and I have said this before, the only thing I was concerened about is the fact that he did this in public during the anthem. And yes, to put it bluntly, I feel that I have every right to say my piece on this. I was honorably discharged. Look it up at the Wise County Courthouse, My DD form 214 is filed there. He got his punishment, what I thought was appropriate and just. Let it go.

I agree, the mods haven't done their jobs in a long time, Maybe it is time for them to go and get some new ones. Think about that.

I didn't realize that I said anything about you. Your free to speak your peace, I just think it's sad that the adult members of this board have let it get to this point.

**centennialdawg** · May 14th, 2010, 12:51 PM

Well, I guess Rock and the others are treating this much like the Pinkston threads. I never mentioned his name, only my thoughts on what he did. As a matter of fact, I even said I didn't care, nor did I want to know who the boy was. The biggest thing that got me is that "matter of fact-no big deal approach" that most people have about it. As a matter of fact, most of my comment were directed toward a couple of posters on here who were trying to antagonize the veterans on this board. The anthem and the flag are two things that should instill respect and honor not for the veterans, but for our country.

This is the last I am saying on this subject: Be proud of the freedoms you have and cherish them and use them wisely. And every once in a while, thank someone who was willing to stand up and defend your rights to tread on something so precious. They didn't come lightly. :flagwaver:

**Jason** · May 13th, 2010, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by Rocky

yeah, now that i realize the kid wasnt flaunting his tallywhacker on the mound i definitely take back my earlier comments, but to see he is just a kid and he doesnt know what he is doing is ridiculous. everyone is responsible for their own actions. if he had went out and raped a baby or something would you still be saying he is just a kid let it slide?

For one I did not say let it slide. I want you to go back through each of my posts and find where I said to let this matter slide. He got punishment to me that was fitting and I applaud PVHS for that. I hope the young man learns from his mistake.

2. How in the hell can you compare taking a **** during the anthem to raping babies? Sorry but that is absurd! I am just dumbfounded! I know even kids are responsible for their own actions. If you dont know it by now there are different punishments for different crimes. The harsher the crime the harsher the punishment will be. Technically the only crime committed by this young kid was indecent exposure. There is no way that can be even remotely compared to rape.

I just dont think you have fully read any my posts.